...Is This Punishment Or Reward...?
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...yeah, so these guys probably aren't real sailors...
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Oh Man, I Want To Bunk Up Here As Well...
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Its Important to Keep Discipline On Board Ship...
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WTF?! Is This Real...?
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Excellent...
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...Imagine Waking Up To This View Every Morning...
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Relating to the one image of the blow job on deck, it very well could be real due to the war at that time (WWII) while the rule against gays in the military did exist they were less then eager to get rid of any able bodied man so they overlooked some things that in later years they really cracked down on ie homosexuality, drug use (weed) gambling and other things as well.
My straight Uncle Al, age 94 when he died last year, was in the Navy during WWII. We had some great discussions over the years, and he was always open and frank with me, and never seemed to feel uncomfortable, even when we discussed his most intimate times on board the ship. I’m fascinated with this subject, and I constantly peppered him with questions, encouraging him to expand on his memories. I showed him some of the images I had found online, including the one of the blowjob on the deck. What follows are my recollections of our discussions. I don’t remember all of it word-for-word, so if I quote him, I’m paraphrasing.
During WWII, sexual activity among the guys on his ship was common because of a lack of women. It wasn't considered "homosexual", but rather an innovative way to masturbate. Everyone jerked off, but when you could do it with someone else, well, that was a whole lot more fun! Mutual masturbation/circle-jerks were common, as was almost anything that could imitate (or at least approximate) a vagina. Fucking between the thighs, armpit or between the feet or hands were ways a sailor could imagine he was fucking a pussy. Frequently a sailor would engage in mutual masturbation while ogling an image of a pin-up girl or a risqué photo of a woman. Porn was available, though scarce, and porn images usually consisted of a naked woman artfully posed. Rarer were actual images of a vagina, or sexual penetration, though they did exist.
According to Uncle Al, sex among the men was a product of both boredom and “blue balls”, the need for sexual expression as much as sexual release. When I asked, he told me that the guys with bigger dicks seemed more willing to engage; he had always considered it to be their own ego trip.
Less common, though still prevalent, were anal/oral sex. The problem was finding a willing recipient. On my uncle's ship, there were at least two men whom everyone knew were homosexuals, though they were not openly gay (and a number of others who were highly suspect too). These guys would allow penetration, given the right circumstances; i.e. they liked/were attracted to the person, or if money/favors/rations/etc. exchanged hands. (According to Uncle Al, a few of his straight buddies also made some extra cash by allowing themselves to be penetrated, though knowledge of it was strictly kept to a small, tight-knit group of men who didn’t dare share it for fear of exposure and ridicule.) Again, it was usually done with eyes closed imagining they were penetrating a female, or open while staring at an image of a woman.
Uncle Al told me that most of the guys used the gay boys for sex at one time or another, often frequently. There were times when they would please a number of men at once, either together or separately (i.e. gang-bangs, circle blow-jobs). They were teased and harassed, but it was usually not severe often good-naturedly. After all, if one wanted a little ass or a good blowjob now and then, one didn't arbitrarily piss the gay boys off. But the harassment could be vicious at times too; on more than one occasion both were physically beat up. Generally speaking, they were tolerated, though their homosexuality was rarely discussed openly. Uncle Al said they were the "necessary embarrassment", guys may have disapproved of them, but used them for sex anyway.
(I’m approaching the character-count limit, so must continue in another comment…)
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Interestingly, the shipmates didn't see the conflict here. It wasn’t OK for guys to "be" gay or engage as homosexuals. But somehow, it seemed OK for themselves to engage! When I asked Uncle Al about this strange double-standard, his reply was, "I suppose that in our minds, we found a way to justify what we needed to in order to make our situation acceptable... manageable! We were living in an enclosed, very isolated environment, shut off from the rest of the world for months at a time, and it was a bit surreal. The social and moral rules of the rest of the world didn't always apply here. In some ways, we invented our own in order to cope with the unreality of our situation." Viewed from the distance of time, that may seem bizarre to us. But in context it was perfectly acceptable given the situation on board a naval vessel.
When I showed him the picture, Uncle Al said that yes, it was probably a "real" picture, though it may have been staged for "laughs". Sex in the open was uncommon, though not completely unheard-of. It may have been performed "jokingly", under the guise of "having a laugh". If the guys could view it as a joke, a "let's-get-our rocks off-for-a-laugh" kind of humor, it then wasn't real, it wasn't homosexual. They could all pretend to be gay long enough to cum, because it was just playacting, it wasn’t real.
Sex was more often confined to below-decks, though occasionally it happened above decks too. There were a number of times when Uncle Al rounded a structure on the ship, particularly in the evening or nighttime, to find guys hiding behind a turret or capstan, jerking off together, sometimes in groups of 3 or 4.
I asked Uncle Al if he ever participated in any of the sexual activity among the guys. He didn't hesitate. "Of course I did, we all did!" He explained that it was just another pleasant activity that had no connection to sexual identity. It was merely a way to get off, to relieve the stress and relax a bit.
It wasn’t an emotional connection, as such, just a sex thing. He did, however, tell of a shipmate that he hooked up with a lot. It was mutual masturbation; no anal/oral penetration. But he did say that they were always trying to find new ways to get off together. He admitted that there was an emotional bond that they shared. It was more of a man-to-man, buddy kind of bond, what we could probably call a “bromance”. But it had a sexual element to it, particularly because of the intimacy they shared. “I was never in love with him, but I loved him like my own,” he said. “I would have stopped a bullet for him.” Interestingly enough, he also said that although he didn't realize it at the time, it was a great benefit to him in later years; practicing that creativity on the ship later helped keep the physical side of his marriage fun and interesting!
I asked about officers and higher ranks. Uncle Al told me that he thought that they were probably aware of the activity, though most likely not of the extent of it. He only knew of one officer who engaged, and that was only because he stumbled on him getting a blow job quite by accident when he opened an unlocked door that should have been locked. Generally speaking, unless the activity was blatant, officers deliberately turned a blind eye, probably figuring that such activity was good for morale and general health and well-being.
I’m sure that there are tons of stories like the ones my Uncle Al shared with me. I just doubt that most guys from that era are as willing to be as open and honest as he was. When he died peacefully in his sleep last year, I was heartbroken. But I was also so grateful, and so glad that I had spent so much time with him, learning about his life experiences. What a remarkable man!
(Sorry to go on so much… I just find the whole subject mesmerizing, and wonder how much of this same stuff goes on in today’s Navy. I’d love to find out.)
these sailors are nothing like the ones when I was in the navy.I wish the fuck they had been I would in heaven. I would have been having sex all the time.
Jake, Thank you for sharing the story!
Love your blog and words. The pic of the marines doing pushups brings back memories for me. I was in an aircraft carrier which had a Marine Detachment (mardet) onboard. They did EVERYTHING together, including exercise. They always wore the tightest shorts. Their cock bulges were always quite pronounced and seemingly unashamedly so. I could only watch their bouncing crotches for a few seconds at a time for fear of imploding from sexual tension. I jerked off A LOT dreaming of those hirsute Adonises. I have to go jerk off now.
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